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Intro to different items to touch

Dustin Holby
Dustin

August 27, 2015 at 12:57pm

I think it's important to add that while you are out training proof all the items you teach for touch. If you are just using the horse pail flipped over bring it with you and try in random spots to get the behavior in new and unfamiliar surroundings. ill also train with objects that you would find outside tree stumps and large rocks turn into touch pads pretty easily.
Christina Stockinger
Christina

August 27, 2015 at 1:42pm

You're so right, Dustin. I've made the same experience with generalizing and proofing. Once the dogs have got a behaviour in a solid manner I found it very useful to train that way. And if we don't randomise, it makes us too predictable and so the result will be only half a thing.

Nebojsa Bozanin
Nebojsa

December 5, 2015 at 4:56pm

I absolutely agree with both of you. I've done something similar with my dog  - I'd use a plastic tray or a low folding stool etc. and place them in various spots of the training area, but I'd also use benches or any other raised surfaces she could put her front paws on, and she generalized the behavior after a few days of practice. I would also add that this has helped her gain self-confidence and has done wonders for our relationship since she now trusts me even more. 

N.

Kemp Bouwman
Kemp

March 5, 2016 at 2:34pm

Thanks for the advice. I know the one thing I don't want is my dog to start giving me half effort work.
Hsin Liang
Hsin

June 12, 2016 at 11:21pm

This is a good point brought up by the topic creator.

I had a session recently with another trainer and I thought I generalized the touch pad behavior well enough with my young terrier mix and in a new studio she showed me how much more generalization I had to do. 

I worked with this little terrier at parks and at other friend's houses and I thought I had generalized her well enough with the pedestal that I could do the touch pad work at this new studio.

Even with using the pedestal she was familiar with, the fact that it was a new studio she was not willing to show the behavior without a lot of luring.

David Stanford
David

September 16, 2016 at 11:20pm

I've been working with my GSD with the touch pad, using different things from bowls to flat and raised pieces of wood.  He was resistant at first, but now he knows exactly what the commands are to get on each one.  I wasn't sure if I'd see any immediate benefit, but today I took him to the vet to get weighed.  Their scale is about the same height as my touch pad.

I've struggled in the past to get him on the scale and be still.  I'd often have to use leash pressure and even then it wasn't easy.  Today for the first time I said his marker to him and he climbed on the scale with no problem and even sat down when asked.  It's nice to see a real life situation that was improved by the touch pad.

 

Christina Stockinger
Christina

September 17, 2016 at 6:43am

Generalizing is so incredibly important. As all of you have said, a behavior, which is solid on the spot where the dog has learned it, does not mean he knows it on another spot. So, generalizing in different surroundings is one part. Generalizing with different objects is another part.

In my training lab I use in between lots of different items, different beds, chairs, benches, big and small, round and square perches, a household ladder in the way we use it ourselves climbing up to the platform, but also a ladder just laying on the floor, so the dog has walk over it, once putting his paws between the different steps and once putting them directly onto the steps. I also use boxes and boards  of various forms, lengths, heigths, barrels, balls, also one of those big exercise balls humans use (great exercise for their sense of balance), halfball, wobble ball, skateboard.

There are so many things around us we can use, without spending a lot of money. I also use myself as an item. Eg. I put myself on all 4s and the the dog steps onto my back with his front feet (not necessarily the whole dog, question of his weight!), Or I kneel down, but one leg elevated (placed on the foot) and the dog steps on my thigh, also on my hip or my stretched out arm. There are innumerable possibilities. (For using our body I'd recommend to do this only with a dog who knows something like a "get down" command first!  Some dogs have even kind of inhibition to mount the owner's body and for them we will need more patience to overcome this.

A session which all my four dogs love immensely is when I create a little parcours with different items they already have practice with, but all in a confused order, changing it every time randomly, so they have to know very well the command you use.

Another great part, which already has been mentioned here, is generalizing in the outside world, on walks for example. There we will find such a lot of possiblities, sidewalks around houses, big stones, little hills, elevated parts of a roadside, benches, tree trunks and so on.

It is all fun for the dogs and perfect for their body awareness. About body awareness: with a bit more advanced dogs try also to teach him step onto some items with his hind legs first. Best way: Teach him first simply going backward on flat ground, you walking in front of him, baited fists in front of dogs snout, TM and reward in the beginning for each step he takes backward, later on use duration marker and reward only randomly.

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