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Peg and Chi - Week 4 - Focus and Proofing

Peg Munves
Peg

November 19, 2015 at 7:37pm

There are two videos in a playlist here

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgojNr7wW86Day5d-lqVJM5aRLx1SIANW

Our SIT STAY is a work in progress - he is looking at a visual target still, but it's coming along!  We love the clockwork game, and we aren't all the way there in heel position.  Two things - the last YES marker in the clockwork game was NOT good - he was looking away when I marked and I moved on the mark!  Also I see my left arm is not straight but pulled back and I will work on it.  In another week this will be fab!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Also a work in progress is Chi's focus when in between my legs and moving.  I am certain this will get a lot better as well.  We are PUMPED.  Chi thinks this is crazy fun. 

Reanne Heuston
Reanne

November 20, 2015 at 2:27am

I love how he bursts forward from the sit when you mark "yes" quietly.  My girls still wait for me to move, not much anticipation from them.

Cathy Miller
Cathy

November 20, 2015 at 8:28am

Looks Great!!! I'm just starting on the clock thing. I'm so far behind!

Peg Munves
Peg

November 21, 2015 at 7:14am

Hey Reanne!  We've been doing marker training since Chi was about 8 weeks old - he's almost a year old now, which is what you see.  It takes time but all of a sudden you see the ENERGY with YES! .  I worked a lot on the perch so I think that helps - the leaping off of something on the release.  Also at the very start of the training - the handler going from still to that BURST of movement after the YES.  This seems to make it very clear to the dog and they get silly excited.  It's hard for people to stop and freeze and then BURST out.  It's a funny thing to see - most people move just a little instead of freezing.

Forrest Micke
Forrest Micke

November 21, 2015 at 10:12am

Peg, I almost thought you were dong a sit stay with him while he watched his favorite tv program!!! He seemed pretty focused forward!

He looked really solid to me. And great feedback and facilitation from you!

Your clockwork game is really tight. So it makes sense: I consider you at position 1 (we might call it 12:00) on the first 20 seconds of your video. Then, you move to position 2 (2:30). The 3rd position, which you reach at :44, is 4:30 perhaps:) And the final position is heel. 

When working to each position in this game, I’ll generally reward/release from the position I’m in, without returning to the front. Because this is a game of focus. We have to terminate the behavior to reward… else we pull the dog off task when feeding (if we don’t terminate). So, at :44 when you move to the 3rd position, mark “yes” and let Chi release to feed. This makes it clear that the point of challenge was at that position, and he’s rewarded for sustaining focus to your face and not your hands.

Another note, and I don’t think I made this clear in the videos this week - when i get to position 3 and 4 around the clock, I try and reward exclusively from the left hand. This will draw the dog’s head up as they attempt to be closer to reward as it comes in. You are very familiar with this concept due to your time with Michael. As I get closer to heel, I want the dog to expect reward from the left hand. And if I’ve prepared them enough they’ll know the only strategy to get the mark is to look to the (side of) face. We’ll get a pretty high head position when we ‘conflict’ them between criteria for behavior and reward placement!

Love all the little things you do to keep things interesting in between reps!

Another note: After setting the dog up in a sit to start another repetition, I’ll move into whatever position I want (1,2,3 or 4) before extending my arm and asking for ‘watch’. Chi does an amazing job of staying on your face while you move between positions - this is HARD for dogs. So you’re ahead of the curve in this sense. But it may be all the same to move to position first and then commence the focus training. And when he’s brilliant, mark (terminal) and reward from that position, no return to front needed.

An example would be: at 1:14, after putting him in a sit, smoothly move to position 4 (no expectation of focus from him) and when you get there, then go into focus training mode by extending your arm, using “good” to support him in focus, and then “yes” to release him to reward (with overhead placement from left hand).

Also, when you start feeding from that left hand exclusively, it will be interesting to see how it affects his interpretation of the work. You might find that he does chase that left hand a bit - so we want to push that issue to make sure he’s solid that chasing the left isn’t a good strategy.

Beautiful work from the middle!!!! He’s really getting it. See if you can fade some of the “good” as you move forward from here. Still support him as needed, but also see where you can fade it. If he does make a mistake and look at the hand when you’re silent, simply wait for him to refind the face ((perhaps don’t say anything and let him discover himself) and then mark “yes” and feed when he does. He may self-discover the best strategy toward reward!!!

Excellent piece-work, Peg. It really is coming together quite nicely!

 

 

Peg Munves
Peg

November 21, 2015 at 10:17am

Great feedback!  Yes - lots of work ahead.  This is a snapshot of where we are, and the tighter instruction will help a lot. I misremembered from the video tutorials about marking at the place where we ARE in the clockwork game.  I somehow thought to return to the FRONT before finishing that.  Of course what you say makes sense, and clearly I inverted something you said in a different vid.  We are so excited to be on this great path to good heeling.

Karen Myrfield
Karen

November 21, 2015 at 10:59am

Hi Peg, GREAT video! Love his energy! Amazing work, and your video with Forrest's fantastic feedback came at a perfect time for us. I was a bit confused about when to move my arm in the clockwork game, so that's cleared up now. Also, rewarding from left hand in this game is something I knew was a goal but I didn't know we should be focusing on....so I'm thankful. In heel position, with the left arm extended out seems to be much harder for my dog anyway. So I was working on right hand rewarding to start--to get my dog's attention away from my left arm, which I think is what Forrest said to do to start. You are so clear with your marking and consistent with everything. It's obvious you have put lots of work into training. A joy to watch. Karen & Khina
Peg Munves
Peg

November 21, 2015 at 11:39am

THANKS Karen.  I am glad this was helpful.  I find the same thing when I see other's videos and the feedback.  What a cool feature of this class. Chi has been maturing slowly so I've been doing what I can with him, so long as he is engaged and happy.  We completed Michael Ellis's LEERBURG course a couple of months ago, and it was the perfect start for training more precisely, earlier.  We could do almost the whole course with what that required, even though he was a little pup.  So that was excellent help as a starting off point. It's very interesting being on "dog time"! If you want to see something else that's fun, check out my dog Jazz (just passed in July) working with a kid, helping the kid experience a dog who is having FUN!  http://youtu.be/a4ZB2Wc6zSE

Lexi Hayden
Lexi

November 21, 2015 at 8:20pm

What a NICE job Peg! I also thought that Chi was watching something on TV at first - LOL but he was just so focused and thinking hard! :) He's having so much fun with you and you've done a beautiful job: clear, calm, consistent. And fun to watch! :)

Peg Munves
Peg

November 21, 2015 at 9:01pm

He IS looking at a visual target so you are correct!  It's a small target with a piece of food on it, VERY crude, used really early on (we don't really have a real sit stay yet) and it's the same thing I use for looking for go outs, getting a retrieve item, sending him away and then quickly coming back, or sending him from A to Bs on a photo shoot (although I use foot targets for that as well right after this).  I love using all sorts of body targets to get behavior going.  Makes it so much easier to explain to the dog.  So you are all correct!

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